Defending the Home Front!.....?
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Defending the Home Front!.....?
It seems that agriculture is a very interested industry in world trade. It is the most nationally defended one in any country. Most western countries subsidize their agriculture through subsidizing farmers for their crops and livestock. I know for a fact that the United States does based on information from globalpolicy.org, and I know that the United Kingdom does based on a class I took about International Economics. England even refused to join the European Union if they did not let them keep trade barriers on their agriculture. You wanna talk about an ethics issue? haha, you found one.
On the surface, any westerner would say this is a great thing. We are protecting our farmers. Subsidies allow farmers to stay in business, and barriers downgrade the foreign competition. Farmers can keep high prices and keep making enough money to survive well. Not only that, but we guarantee a sort of independence in our agriculture. It keeps a country from relying on another for a food source. That's the idea anyways.
The problem...
A lot of underdeveloped countries depend on their agriculture industry. Because they're underdeveloped their agriculture industry provides the most income since they don't have the money to develop any other industries to a point where they'd be worth more than they cost. To do this, they would need to sell their agricultural products overseas to other countries with higher demand to make the income to spend on new technology and business. However, with all the trade barriers developed countries put up, that's impossible.
The problem's problem...
On top of that, the excess food made by farmers in developing countries isn't kept inside the borders, it's exported elsewhere. This drives down the price of food in underdeveloped countries, while keeping ours high. The farmers in the underdeveloped countries, now make even less money.
So, developed nations don't allow underdeveloped countries to export agricultural goods to protect the domestic industry, but then export their goods to the underdeveloped countries to destroy their industries that are already poor. I see a huge problem with this.
Smaller countries should be allowed to export agricultural products into the developed nations. Yes, a lot of farms would go out of business, but some would remain in business as the only "domestically grown" products. That would be a great gimmick if they began allowing imports. If it does come to a point where we may be at war with the nation providing us food, we still have farmland that has been preserved that we can begin using again while we finish off whatever we exported.
To do this though, smaller underdeveloped nations have to stand up. They need to refuse agriculture imports. I still don't understand this "dumping" issue. If the only strong industry keeping people employed in these nations is agriculture, why are they buying agriculture exports from larger nations? They call it dumping, but you can't just drop food in a country and leave it, dumping means that these countries are buying food from the larger countries. I don't understand why they're buying? If they are buying, they shouldn't be mad at the larger nations for selling. This leads me to believe that the people who are angry and protesting this "dumping" actually have nothing to do with these underdeveloped countries they victimize.
Don't get me wrong. I personally believe that what the larger nations are doing is wrong. Western nations claim free trade is the only way to go and preach it to all these smaller countries that can't afford it, then don't allow them to export the items they need to export. On top of that, they export the items they don't allow the smaller nations to. It's simply wrong. Flat out wrong. It's bullying.
However, the only way to get them to stop is to stop buying their products. If western interest groups are the only ones standing up for smaller countries when the smaller countries aren't even standing up for themselves, how are they ever going to become independent of larger developed nations? They won't. Maybe that's the ultimate goal of these larger nations, keep underdeveloped nations and emerging economies down. Who knows. I hope that's not the case, but in reality what am I going to do about it?
Larger nations run on supply and demand. Trying to force them to stop selling something that is getting demand isn't going to work. The only way to get rid of supply, is to get rid of demand. I'm definately going to look into this "dumping" process and found out exactly how it's happening.
On the surface, any westerner would say this is a great thing. We are protecting our farmers. Subsidies allow farmers to stay in business, and barriers downgrade the foreign competition. Farmers can keep high prices and keep making enough money to survive well. Not only that, but we guarantee a sort of independence in our agriculture. It keeps a country from relying on another for a food source. That's the idea anyways.
The problem...
A lot of underdeveloped countries depend on their agriculture industry. Because they're underdeveloped their agriculture industry provides the most income since they don't have the money to develop any other industries to a point where they'd be worth more than they cost. To do this, they would need to sell their agricultural products overseas to other countries with higher demand to make the income to spend on new technology and business. However, with all the trade barriers developed countries put up, that's impossible.
The problem's problem...
On top of that, the excess food made by farmers in developing countries isn't kept inside the borders, it's exported elsewhere. This drives down the price of food in underdeveloped countries, while keeping ours high. The farmers in the underdeveloped countries, now make even less money.
So, developed nations don't allow underdeveloped countries to export agricultural goods to protect the domestic industry, but then export their goods to the underdeveloped countries to destroy their industries that are already poor. I see a huge problem with this.
Smaller countries should be allowed to export agricultural products into the developed nations. Yes, a lot of farms would go out of business, but some would remain in business as the only "domestically grown" products. That would be a great gimmick if they began allowing imports. If it does come to a point where we may be at war with the nation providing us food, we still have farmland that has been preserved that we can begin using again while we finish off whatever we exported.
To do this though, smaller underdeveloped nations have to stand up. They need to refuse agriculture imports. I still don't understand this "dumping" issue. If the only strong industry keeping people employed in these nations is agriculture, why are they buying agriculture exports from larger nations? They call it dumping, but you can't just drop food in a country and leave it, dumping means that these countries are buying food from the larger countries. I don't understand why they're buying? If they are buying, they shouldn't be mad at the larger nations for selling. This leads me to believe that the people who are angry and protesting this "dumping" actually have nothing to do with these underdeveloped countries they victimize.
Don't get me wrong. I personally believe that what the larger nations are doing is wrong. Western nations claim free trade is the only way to go and preach it to all these smaller countries that can't afford it, then don't allow them to export the items they need to export. On top of that, they export the items they don't allow the smaller nations to. It's simply wrong. Flat out wrong. It's bullying.
However, the only way to get them to stop is to stop buying their products. If western interest groups are the only ones standing up for smaller countries when the smaller countries aren't even standing up for themselves, how are they ever going to become independent of larger developed nations? They won't. Maybe that's the ultimate goal of these larger nations, keep underdeveloped nations and emerging economies down. Who knows. I hope that's not the case, but in reality what am I going to do about it?
Larger nations run on supply and demand. Trying to force them to stop selling something that is getting demand isn't going to work. The only way to get rid of supply, is to get rid of demand. I'm definately going to look into this "dumping" process and found out exactly how it's happening.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/08/business/ibrief.php
I'm still a little confused as to what dumping is and how it works. It sounds like "dumping" is when a firm sells products overseas at a price below the local market value. In the article I read, it sounds like it may be more of a "black market" issue though, as it's being referred to as having "illegal products." So, I guess that makes nations as a whole somewhat exempt, right? I mean, if it's individual firms or people illegal selling products off-record, you can't just say that the United States needs to stop dumping. I mean really, we have a hard enough time dealing with our own national black market, lol, nevermind the international one.
Here's what I want to know, if anyone ever registers on this site and would like to help me out...
Who does the dumping? Exactly who? Is it individual consumers? Is it firms? Is it government agencies? Who? Then, we can decide who's fault it is, and who's responsible eh?
Just as an added note: I think that while smaller countries are having an issue with dumping on a scale that's large enough that it is leaving 80-90% of its business owners broke and without money, they should not be on a capitalist system. Capitalism supports the idea of global competition, whether or not it destroys the domestic market. It works ok for us in the United States because we've already had a great deal of time to develop our private sector, its laws, and what powers it has, so our businesses had more of a foundation to compete on by the time outsourcing became a term in everyday life. These smaller, undeveloped or developing nations are coping with constant political changes between communist, democracy, and even military run governments. They don't yet have a foundation that will allow their private sector to take control of supply and prices in the market. Capitalism requires that. They should be on a socialist system that will subsidize and support local agriculture to the point that it's almost free. Then, dumping will no longer be an issue because any foreigner couldn't offer a better deal than what is available at home. Of course, how to transition from socialist to capitalist later on would be an issue, but perhaps the country wouldn't want to.
Here's what I want to know, if anyone ever registers on this site and would like to help me out...
Who does the dumping? Exactly who? Is it individual consumers? Is it firms? Is it government agencies? Who? Then, we can decide who's fault it is, and who's responsible eh?
Just as an added note: I think that while smaller countries are having an issue with dumping on a scale that's large enough that it is leaving 80-90% of its business owners broke and without money, they should not be on a capitalist system. Capitalism supports the idea of global competition, whether or not it destroys the domestic market. It works ok for us in the United States because we've already had a great deal of time to develop our private sector, its laws, and what powers it has, so our businesses had more of a foundation to compete on by the time outsourcing became a term in everyday life. These smaller, undeveloped or developing nations are coping with constant political changes between communist, democracy, and even military run governments. They don't yet have a foundation that will allow their private sector to take control of supply and prices in the market. Capitalism requires that. They should be on a socialist system that will subsidize and support local agriculture to the point that it's almost free. Then, dumping will no longer be an issue because any foreigner couldn't offer a better deal than what is available at home. Of course, how to transition from socialist to capitalist later on would be an issue, but perhaps the country wouldn't want to.

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